Pickerel vs Walleye: Setting the Record Straight

Ok gonna throw a wrench into the argument for those who keep saying WALLEYE is the scientific name of the species of fish being argued here. Actually, NO it's not. The scientific name for the species of fish called walleye is actually.........Sander vitreus. and I dunno bout the rest of you, but IF we had to refer to any species of fish ONLY by the actual scientific name they've been given like THAT one or the many other purely scientific names, NONE OF US WOULD EAT THEM, because those scientific names are not only hard to pronounce sometimes, they sound incredibly unappetizing. :ROFLMAO:

Now to be clear, the information below I found through a google search, so if you believe this information is not accurate, take it up with google (and wikipedia which is where I got rerouted too,) not me, ok? ;):)

"The walleye (Sander vitreus, synonym Stizostedion vitreum), also called the yellow pike, is a freshwater perciform fish native to most of Canada and to the Northern United States. It is a North American close relative of the European zander, also known as the pikeperch. The walleye is sometimes called the yellow walleye to distinguish it from the blue walleye, which is a subspecies that was once found in the southern Ontario and Quebec regions, but is now presumed extinct. However, recent genetic analysis of a preserved (frozen) 'blue walleye' sample suggests that the blue and yellow walleye were simply phenotypes within the same species and do not merit separate taxonomic classification. In parts of its range in English-speaking Canada, the walleye is known as a pickerel, though the fish is not related to the true pickerels, which are a member of the family Esocidae

Esox is a genus of freshwater fish, the only living genus in the family Esocidae—the esocids which were endemic to North America and Eurasia during the Paleogene through present. The species of this genus are known as pike and pickerel. The type species is E. lucius, the northern pike. The big pike species are native to the Palearctic and Nearctic ecozones, ranging across northern North America and from Western Europe to Siberia in Eurasia.

Pikes have the elongated, torpedo-like form of predatory fishes, with sharply pointed heads and sharp teeth. Their coloration is typically grey-green with a mottled or spotted appearance with stripes along their backs, providing camouflage among weeds. Individual pike marking patterns are unique, like fingerprints. Pike can grow to a maximum recorded length of 1.83 m (6 ft), reaching a maximum recorded weight of 35 kg (77 lb).


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Scientific name
Common Name
Esox aquitanicus Denys, Dettai, Persat, Hautecœur & Keith, 2014Aquitanian pike
1580358507025.pngEsox americanus J. F. Gmelin, 1789American pickerel
1580358525187.pngEsox cisalpinus Bianco & Delmastro, 2011Southern pike[6]
1580358544875.pngEsox lucius Linnaeus, 1758Northern pike
1580358562936.pngEsox masquinongy Mitchill, 1824Muskellunge
1580358579447.pngEsox niger Lesueur, 1818Chain pickerel
1580358598899.pngEsox reichertii Dybowski, 1869Amur pike
Hybrids between Esox masquinongy and Esox lucius are well-known and referred to as the tiger muskellunge.
 
Ok gonna throw a wrench into the argument for those who keep saying WALLEYE is the scientific name of the species of fish being argued here. Actually, NO it's not. The scientific name for the species of fish called walleye is actually.........Sander vitreus. and I dunno bout the rest of you, but IF we had to refer to any species of fish ONLY by the actual scientific name they've been given like THAT one or the many other purely scientific names, NONE OF US WOULD EAT THEM, because those scientific names are not only hard to pronounce sometimes, they sound incredibly unappetizing. :ROFLMAO:

Now to be clear, the information below I found through a google search, so if you believe this information is not accurate, take it up with google (and wikipedia which is where I got rerouted too,) not me, ok? ;):)

"The walleye (Sander vitreus, synonym Stizostedion vitreum), also called the yellow pike, is a freshwater perciform fish native to most of Canada and to the Northern United States. It is a North American close relative of the European zander, also known as the pikeperch. The walleye is sometimes called the yellow walleye to distinguish it from the blue walleye, which is a subspecies that was once found in the southern Ontario and Quebec regions, but is now presumed extinct. However, recent genetic analysis of a preserved (frozen) 'blue walleye' sample suggests that the blue and yellow walleye were simply phenotypes within the same species and do not merit separate taxonomic classification. In parts of its range in English-speaking Canada, the walleye is known as a pickerel, though the fish is not related to the true pickerels, which are a member of the family Esocidae

Esox is a genus of freshwater fish, the only living genus in the family Esocidae—the esocids which were endemic to North America and Eurasia during the Paleogene through present. The species of this genus are known as pike and pickerel. The type species is E. lucius, the northern pike. The big pike species are native to the Palearctic and Nearctic ecozones, ranging across northern North America and from Western Europe to Siberia in Eurasia.

Pikes have the elongated, torpedo-like form of predatory fishes, with sharply pointed heads and sharp teeth. Their coloration is typically grey-green with a mottled or spotted appearance with stripes along their backs, providing camouflage among weeds. Individual pike marking patterns are unique, like fingerprints. Pike can grow to a maximum recorded length of 1.83 m (6 ft), reaching a maximum recorded weight of 35 kg (77 lb).


Hybrids between Esox masquinongy and Esox lucius are well-known and referred to as the tiger muskellunge.
There is no wrench....walleye is tagged with the scientific species. See pic.. it's in the pike family despite being closely related a perch and being called a member of the perch family here. Apparently it's just not ontario and Quebec but also the west that calls then pickerel. Again it comes down the demographic locations which I said all along. Why dont we start the cougar vs mointina loon vs puma vs panther lol? It's all based location heritage traditions and what your comfortable with.
 
There is no wrench....walleye is tagged with the scientific species. See pic.. it's in the pike family despite being closely related a perch and being called a member of the perch family here. Apparently it's just not ontario and Quebec but also the west that calls then pickerel. Again it comes down the demographic locations which I said all along. Why dont we start the cougar vs mointina loon vs puma vs panther lol? It's all based location heritage traditions and what your comfortable with.

You may want to re-read that information. Walleye are NOT in the pike family. (Esocidae ) They are in the Perch family (Percidae)

The Percidae are a family of perciform fish found in fresh and brackish waters of the Northern Hemisphere. The majority are Nearctic, but there are also Palearctic species. The family contains about 200 species in 11 genera. The perches, and their relatives are in this family; well-known species include the walleye, sauger, ruffe, and three species of perch. However, small fish known as darters are also a part of this family.

But if we just call them lunch as I have suggested before, unless you're not sharing or you had to buy, everyone should be happy right :unsure::LOL:
 
You may want to re-read that information. Walleye are NOT in the pike family. (Esocidae ) They are in the Perch family (Percidae)

The Percidae are a family of perciform fish found in fresh and brackish waters of the Northern Hemisphere. The majority are Nearctic, but there are also Palearctic species. The family contains about 200 species in 11 genera. The perches, and their relatives are in this family; well-known species include the walleye, sauger, ruffe, and three species of perch. However, small fish known as darters are also a part of this family.

But if we just call them lunch as I have suggested before, unless you're not sharing or you had to buy, everyone should be happy right :unsure::LOL:
Actually according to wiki you are incorrect . See pic. Walleye is actually a member of the pike family. I always thought yellow perch were their closest relative. Multiple sources online say it's in the pike family. It even goes by pike perch name . Turns out they are PIKE.
 

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You may want to re-read that information. Walleye are NOT in the pike family. (Esocidae ) They are in the Perch family (Percidae)

The Percidae are a family of perciform fish found in fresh and brackish waters of the Northern Hemisphere. The majority are Nearctic, but there are also Palearctic species. The family contains about 200 species in 11 genera. The perches, and their relatives are in this family; well-known species include the walleye, sauger, ruffe, and three species of perch. However, small fish known as darters are also a part of this family.

But if we just call them lunch as I have suggested before, unless you're not sharing or you had to buy, everyone should be happy right :unsure::LOL:
I agree they are from the perch family... wiki has got it wrong see below...according to then they are from the pike family
 
Ok gonna throw a wrench into the argument for those who keep saying WALLEYE is the scientific name of the species of fish being argued here. Actually, NO it's not. The scientific name for the species of fish called walleye is actually.........Sander vitreus. and I dunno bout the rest of you, but IF we had to refer to any species of fish ONLY by the actual scientific name they've been given like THAT one or the many other purely scientific names, NONE OF US WOULD EAT THEM, because those scientific names are not only hard to pronounce sometimes, they sound incredibly unappetizing. :ROFLMAO:

Now to be clear, the information below I found through a google search, so if you believe this information is not accurate, take it up with google (and wikipedia which is where I got rerouted too,) not me, ok? ;):)

"The walleye (Sander vitreus, synonym Stizostedion vitreum), also called the yellow pike, is a freshwater perciform fish native to most of Canada and to the Northern United States. It is a North American close relative of the European zander, also known as the pikeperch. The walleye is sometimes called the yellow walleye to distinguish it from the blue walleye, which is a subspecies that was once found in the southern Ontario and Quebec regions, but is now presumed extinct. However, recent genetic analysis of a preserved (frozen) 'blue walleye' sample suggests that the blue and yellow walleye were simply phenotypes within the same species and do not merit separate taxonomic classification. In parts of its range in English-speaking Canada, the walleye is known as a pickerel, though the fish is not related to the true pickerels, which are a member of the family Esocidae

Esox is a genus of freshwater fish, the only living genus in the family Esocidae—the esocids which were endemic to North America and Eurasia during the Paleogene through present. The species of this genus are known as pike and pickerel. The type species is E. lucius, the northern pike. The big pike species are native to the Palearctic and Nearctic ecozones, ranging across northern North America and from Western Europe to Siberia in Eurasia.

Pikes have the elongated, torpedo-like form of predatory fishes, with sharply pointed heads and sharp teeth. Their coloration is typically grey-green with a mottled or spotted appearance with stripes along their backs, providing camouflage among weeds. Individual pike marking patterns are unique, like fingerprints. Pike can grow to a maximum recorded length of 1.83 m (6 ft), reaching a maximum recorded weight of 35 kg (77 lb).


Hybrids between Esox masquinongy and Esox lucius are well-known and referred to as the tiger muskellunge.
Excellent information again @Trevor M (y) and thanks for sharing!! ? I will always call them Walleye’s!! (Sander vitreus —:oops:LoL:ROFLMAO:?).5F714004-0AF7-4E56-9044-A04F8A7EC4D8.jpeg And,congratulations on the Leafs win last night! ??;)?:D
 
Excellent information again @Trevor M (y) and thanks for sharing!! ? I will always call them Walleye’s!! (Sander vitreus —:oops:LoL:ROFLMAO:?).View attachment 20366 And,congratulations on the Leafs win last night! ??;)?:D
I just call'em lunch now Red. I had nothin to do with them winning, I wasn't on the ice LOL. 2 gm winning streak, that'll end on Saturday tho when they play Ottawa. Dunno why, but like they do with Boston, they seem to have a bit of a problem with Ottawa when they shouldn't LOL.
 
I agree they are from the perch family... wiki has got it wrong see below...according to then they are from the pike family
I think you're misinterpreting what you're reading. Yes, it says that somewhere out there (but doesn't say where) they're called "pikeperch," (but that does not mean that they are part of the pike family) It's just another name to argue about no different that the argument over Walleye or Pickerel. When you google walleye, it'll come up on the right side of the page and tells you what "family" they are from. Also the top link takes you to the wikipedia site which is where I copied and pasted that information from and there's another info splash about them on the right side of that page. They aren't pike at all but one thing they do have in common outside they both swim and both have teeth is, they both taste pretty damn good with fries and a little lemon juice :LOL:
 
I just call'em lunch now Red. I had nothin to do with them winning, I wasn't on the ice LOL. 2 gm winning streak, that'll end on Saturday tho when they play Ottawa. Dunno why, but like they do with Boston, they seem to have a bit of a problem with Ottawa when they shouldn't LOL.
Lunch 2AB5BF9A-92DE-4732-A60C-01E90A7DF121.jpeg 3C2AB463-BF15-4954-B939-417C8B9F8438.jpeg 766C4B13-8325-4D81-B87B-14EEB9A62C06.jpegfor naming a walleye sounds good @Trevor M ? :p.It’s time now to grab a McCafe and take a drive around the Thames River to see if there might be a walleye around somewhere.?? Enjoy the rest of your day & the hockey season.?? ;)?
 
@Trevor M... Are you telling me I have bringing home and eating some creature called a Stizostedion vitreum o_Oinstead of walleye or for argument's sake a ? "pickerel" ????? Now I'm really confused. ? :unsure: Winternet doesn't always bring out the best in us but it sure beats shoveling snow. ?
 
@Trevor M... Are you telling me I have bringing home and eating some creature called a Stizostedion vitreum o_Oinstead of walleye or for argument's sake a ? "pickerel" ????? Now I'm really confused. ? :unsure: Winternet doesn't always bring out the best in us but it sure beats shoveling snow. ?

No Bob, that's what some technical scientific type guy is telling you you're taking home and eating. I'M telling you that you're taking home LUNCH :p
 
I think you're misinterpreting what you're reading. Yes, it says that somewhere out there (but doesn't say where) they're called "pikeperch," (but that does not mean that they are part of the pike family) It's just another name to argue about no different that the argument over Walleye or Pickerel. When you google walleye, it'll come up on the right side of the page and tells you what "family" they are from. Also the top link takes you to the wikipedia site which is where I copied and pasted that information from and there's another info splash about them on the right side of that page. They aren't pike at all but one thing they do have in common outside they both swim and both have teeth is, they both taste pretty damn good with fries and a little lemon juice :LOL:
No the very first thing that comes up is this ... its says pike family...of course there are from the perch side which include zander and sauger... by reading that I would come away thinking walleye and pike were in the same family..of course it's not accurate but there are multiple articles where they say the same..maybe a European thing?? That's where they are pike perch. Perhaps they too have the pickeral thing wrong??interesting
 

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"The walleye (Sander vitreus, synonym Stizostedion vitreum), also called the yellow pike, is a freshwater perciform fish native to most of Canada and to the Northern United States. It is a North American close relative of the European zander, also known as the pikeperch.

Speaking of the European Zander.

http://www.invadingspecies.com/zander/
Zander – Ontario's Invading Species Awareness Program

How to Identify Zander

Looks similar to Walleye and Sauger, and could be confused with these native species. It can be identified through the following physical characteristics:
 Can grow up to 100 cm in length (That’s a whopping 3.28084ft) and it may reach 20kg (44lbs)
 Gill cover (opercle) does not have a spine (the gill cover of native Walleye and Sauger both have 1 short sharp spine)
 Two dorsal (back) fins, the first containing spines and the second containing soft rays  The anal fin has 2-3 spines and multiple soft rays
 Tend to be green to blue-grey on the side with a white belly and yellow-grey fins o The dorsal (back) and caudal (tail) fins have rows of black spots on the membranes, this is most visible on the spiny dorsal (back) fin
 Mouth that has many small teeth and 1 – 2 enlarged canine teeth in anterior part of each jaw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zander for more Info on Zander

I didn't know they are already in the U.S. and already there is a North Dakota State Record of 35⅝ inches and weighed 15.91 pounds on a certified scale.

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sp...catching-new-North-Dakota-state-record-zander

OR

If they end up in Lake Erie imagine catching a Monster like this - World record 25lb 6oz Zander. This is the incredible image of what is believed to be the biggest Zander ever caught. The colossal 25lb 6oz specimen, which beats the current world record by 4oz, was boated by big-fish specialist Marco Turrini from the River Po in Italy. The predator measured 3.4ft long.

Can you imagine the size of those Cheeks and Wings!
 

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Speaking of the European Zander.

http://www.invadingspecies.com/zander/
Zander – Ontario's Invading Species Awareness Program

How to Identify Zander

Looks similar to Walleye and Sauger, and could be confused with these native species. It can be identified through the following physical characteristics:
 Can grow up to 100 cm in length (That’s a whopping 3.28084ft) and it may reach 20kg (44lbs)
 Gill cover (opercle) does not have a spine (the gill cover of native Walleye and Sauger both have 1 short sharp spine)
 Two dorsal (back) fins, the first containing spines and the second containing soft rays  The anal fin has 2-3 spines and multiple soft rays
 Tend to be green to blue-grey on the side with a white belly and yellow-grey fins o The dorsal (back) and caudal (tail) fins have rows of black spots on the membranes, this is most visible on the spiny dorsal (back) fin
 Mouth that has many small teeth and 1 – 2 enlarged canine teeth in anterior part of each jaw

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zander for more Info on Zander

I didn't know they are already in the U.S. and already has a North Dakota State Record of 35⅝ inches and weighed 15.91 pounds on a certified scale.

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sp...catching-new-North-Dakota-state-record-zander

OR

If they end up in Lake Erie imagine catching a Monster like this - World record 25lb 6oz Zander. This is the incredible image of what is believed to be the biggest Zander ever caught. The colossal 25lb 6oz specimen, which beats the current world record by 4oz, was boated by big-fish specialist Marco Turrini from the River Po in Italy. The predator measured 3.4ft long.

Can you imagine the size of those Cheeks and Wings!
I watched a TV fishijg show where they were catching giant zander right in the Chernobyl nuke plant. Very cool...in a way ! 25 pound zander in lake erie hmmm
 
look up zander german to english

look up walleye english to german

In July 2009 in Switzerland, a zander attacked tourists in Lake Maggiore, sending two people to the emergency room; the worst cut inflicted was about 10 centimeters long. The 70-cm 8-kg fish was later caught by the local police who cooked it and offered it to the tourists for the trouble it caused.[9] It is very unusual for zander to attack humans.
 
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