First I'd like to thank Stef(Rotten Ronnie) and Brian (Legend Man) for the info on where to go. My son-in-law and I had 4 of my 6 grandchildren out perching straight out from Old Cut. They caught so many perch in an hour and a half that we had to take them to the Green Hornet to have them cleaned. No giants but those we allowed them to keep were 7-11 inches. The boys are 7-11 years of age.