Thanks guys for the info, it's appreciated. Big Dave, I believe your right about the perch hanging around somewhere year round and it's probably just matter of knowing where and if anybody can fiqure it out it would be you. I would love to fish your area off Hastings but just can't push myself to make the eighteen mile run from Burwell. I know perchin' gets really good again in the fall but at that time I'm far too busy pursuing my other passion in life, bowhunting big whitetail bucks. 😀😀