limits

[wrencher]

Just wondering if there is a limit of how much fish a person can have in there possesion if they are not a fisher person. i e if i gave my neighbour my daily limit of perch could he accept more and store them in his freezer? I'm not looking to break any laws it is a hypothectical question. Is there limititaions on game given to you, that is caught leagally.
As if I'd ever give away all of my hard caught booty. lol Just interested in your opoin on this topic since there is nothing in the regs

 

[FRANKIE]

This is actually a pretty darn good question. At first I thought, same as anyone else...a one day limit, but, if you don't actually have a license...hmmm???
I would suggest calling the ministry on this one...I did a quick google search, and, from what I've seen you have to be a valid license holder to have sportfish in your posession. Yet I'm sure many of us have given away the odd fish or two to someone who doesn't actually participate in the sport.
I would hate to see this as a "loophole" or opportunity for people to abuse limits.

 

[forty5goingon65]

i just read a article under fishing questions that states your daily limit is your freezer limit so if you have a regular license to catch 50 perch that is all you are aloud to have in your freezer at one time some people will tell you a hundred but by the article that is incorrect but for example if you give 20 away that day you have to wait till the next day to catch 20 more so your freezer has 50 again same as for giving the fish to your neighbor he does not need to have a license but can only possess what your licence is under for example it says he should keep a record of who gave him the fish and when i know it sounds stupid but that's what it says it also states if you have a shore lunch that has to go in your daily limit that day so you cant eat 20 perch that day and before you go home that day go back out and catch your 20 more perch to make 50 again but you could the next day and also a lot of people like to skin there fish it says lot of people ask the question how much skin do i leave on it says it has to be enough so it can be identified at first glance. i typed in how many perch are you allowed in your freezer in ontario and clicked on the site fishing questions hope that helps i did not no the answer myself until i looked it up forty5goingon65

 

[BASS-master-Gordon]

unless that guy has a fishing license, i'd be keeping that silent, putting it on here was the first mistake, i wouldnt want a CO knocking on his door,but it depends,just depends.

fishing,for some a hobby, for most an addiction

 

[Fish Farmer]

They sell Perch and Walleye at Fortinos etc.
What now?

 

[Rob V]

My guess is, since you gave him those fish - and they weren't sold (you'd really get yourself in trouble selling them without a commercial licence) they'd have to be included in your possession limit.

 

[SRT8]

quote:
Originally posted by BASS-master-Gordon

unless that guy has a fishing license, i'd be keeping that silent, putting it on here was the first mistake, i wouldnt want a CO knocking on his door,but it depends,just depends.

fishing,for some a hobby, for most an addiction



It is not illegal to give fish to a person without a lisence and they are allowed to posess the same as a person with a sport lisence and the fish that are given away count towards your daily limit .

 

[dickie]

I understand the regs to say that you are allowed 50 for each licence in your household as well as 50 for each child under 16 years of age. I'm not sure that the children are reguired to have caught them.

Dick Saarloos

 

[Dutchman]

What if I bought 15lbs of pearch and put them in my freezer.Thats probably more that a hundred fillets . Is this wrong or illigal. Just a guestion.

 

[Dand]

quote:
What if I bought 15lbs of pearch and put them in my freezer.Thats probably more that a hundred fillets . Is this wrong or illigal. Just a guestion.


You can buy and store as much fish as you can afford or fit in your freezer; but make sure you get and keep your recite and packaging proving they were purchased from a legitimate licensed fish supplier.

Dan.

 

[lazyman]

just when was the last time you had a CO in your house asking to see a receipt for fish in your freezer. Anybody?
Lazyman

 

[Thirstystone]

Here"s my take on the possesion question...I go fishing on Sat. & Sun on Lake Erie, I happen to get lucky and catch my limit of 50 perch per day. That"s 100 perch which is my possesion limit. That for my 2 days of fishing I can take that many home. The fish must be identifiable to a co. Meaning not cleaned or some skin left on. So I get home put them in my freezer for future consumption.MMMMM.
On Wed. of the next week I decide to go again to Lake Erie, and I get lucky again for about 35 nice perch oh man am I happy I now have 135 perch in my freezer,that"s going to do me for awhile.
Am I worried that I have 135 perch in my freezer?....NOT one bit.
Even 200 no worry, I have 3 kids that fish and a wife that loves fishing..
Just my thoughts

 

[SRT8]

quote:
Originally posted by Thirstystone

Here"s my take on the possesion question...I go fishing on Sat. & Sun on Lake Erie, I happen to get lucky and catch my limit of 50 perch per day. That"s 100 perch which is my possesion limit. That for my 2 days of fishing I can take that many home. The fish must be identifiable to a co. Meaning not cleaned or some skin left on. So I get home put them in my freezer for future consumption.MMMMM.
On Wed. of the next week I decide to go again to Lake Erie, and I get lucky again for about 35 nice perch oh man am I happy I now have 135 perch in my freezer,that"s going to do me for awhile.
Am I worried that I have 135 perch in my freezer?....NOT one bit.
Even 200 no worry, I have 3 kids that fish and a wife that loves fishing..
Just my thoughts



Although it would be very hard to prove what you are describing is totally illegal you must catch the fish in order for it to be part of YOUR limit so IF they prove you were out 3 times without your wife or kids you would most definately be charged .I know Lake Erie is not hurting any when it comes to perch but should we really be exploiting grey areas to keep over our limits? Absolutely NOT if you want to take 3 lisensed anglers out from your household and catch and keep 150 perch then all the power to you but you really shouldn't be catching that many yourself and say the wife and kids were with me .IMO

 

[SRT8]

quote:
Originally posted by lazyman

just when was the last time you had a CO in your house asking to see a receipt for fish in your freezer. Anybody?
Lazyman



Prolly never happen but does that mean you shouldn't protect yourself ? just because you rarely see a CO does not mean we shouldn't care about the regulations they protect our fisheries .

 

[Dand]

Thank you SRT8 I was just answering the Dutchman’s question.

Lazyman; lets say that you or whoever did go and buy 15lbs of perch filets from a commercial operator legally. (you’re planning a fish fry next week or whatever?)

In the mean time you’re out in the bay and catch your limit of perch.

Someone at the dock hears you saying; I’ve got 15lbs of fillet in my freezer already and this catch will give me at least another 5lbs.
You haven’t done anything wrong; have you?

But now this someone turns out to be a busybody, self riotous want-to-be and calls the TIPS line with your vehicles plate number.
The next thing you know, a CO shows up at your house and you don’t have a recite for your legally purchased fish.

It be like what Ricky Ricardo use to say; LUCY you’s gots sum esplaining tu do.

And don’t think it couldn’t happen; people are getting into more and more of other peoples business all the time.
Sometimes good; sometimes not.

Dan.

 

[G.Mech]

I hate getting into these threads but thought I would point out that the possession limit is only 50 perch for Lake Erie (Zone 19). Lake Simcoe is 100 (Zone 16) and that is an exception to the general limit of 50 in the majority of the zone.

So, since we are into hypothetical questions anyway, here are a couple more to think about....

1) They come to my house and I have 100 perch....where did they come from, Lake Simcoe, Zone 16, or Zone 19 and how does anyone prove it?

2) I caught the perch before New Years and now my license is expired. How many can I have?

I am really not interested in answer to these but I thought it would be fun to toss 'em out there anyway!!


I would still love a definitive answer on the first question though; can someone without a fishing license legally possess angler caught fish given to them by somebody that does have a license ????

 

[Dand]

I got this from the “ask a CO” page.

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Enforcement/2ColumnSubPage/198397.html#giving

Here I’ve copied and pasted the question and Ministries answer.

Dan.

GIVING FISH AWAY

Question Re: Sharing Catch
My neighbours don't fish but they do like a meal of fish once in a while. Can I share my catch with them?

Answer:
Yes you can share your catch with others. This is a common practice since not everyone has the time, equipment or the interest to go fishing.

As long as the fish have been caught legally they can be given away by you and possessed by another person. No licences are required to receive fish from someone else. A person who receives fish from someone else must keep in mind that possession limits do apply to them and that the fish must remain readily identifiable and countable until they are prepared for immediate consumption. This means that cleaning whole fish is fine as long as a generous piece of skin is left attached to the fillet (enough to allow for easy identification) and the fish are not frozen into ball or in bag of ice making them difficult to count.

It is a wise idea for anyone receiving fish from another person to make a note of who gave them the fish and when. Always remember that giving fish away only affects your possession limit, not the number of fish a person can catch and retain in a day.

 

[Stick]

I don't know how many of you were around here when Markus Kehoe was an Ontario resident, very gifted and comitted outdoorsman and a valued contributor here but I seem to remember a "busy body" having something out for him to the point where he got a visit from our local CO's. If I remember right he came out clean but still had to deal with the hassle.

Stick

 

[angler]

Re Stick's comment . Same thing happened to my uncle right down to being clean

 

[duckman]

their is no long a possesion limit it is the same as your daily limit if you catch 50 sat and u are the only one in the house u cannot keep any more fish

 

[G.Mech]

There is still a different limit for catch and possession in some zones for some species duckman.....read the new regs. Zone 16 for example has them listed in the "exceptions" and there are others as well but none in Zone 19.

 

[wrencher]

Well this is still clear as mud. Lol

 

[quinner01]

So lake erie has a 50 fish catch and possession limit for yellow perch, for sports licence holders, or is there a 100 fish possession limit? I could look in the regs book, but ppl on here seem knowledgeable enough.

 

[ch312]

quote:
Originally posted by Stick

I don't know how many of you were around here when Markus Kehoe was an Ontario resident, very gifted and comitted outdoorsman and a valued contributor here but I seem to remember a "busy body" having something out for him to the point where he got a visit from our local CO's. If I remember right he came out clean but still had to deal with the hassle.






if that's the markus i'm thinking of, odds are there was a lot more than one person that didn't like him. gotta be careful when running your mouth on the internet i guess...

 

[G.Mech]

Just to be clear:

Lake Erie (Zone 19) limit for perch is 50 Catch and Possession.

Lake Simcoe and Couchiching is 50 Catch and 100 possession (as outlined in the Zone 16 "Exceptions" section). The rest of zone 16 is 50 catch and possession.

Both numbers quoted are for Sportfishing licenses not Conservation Licenses which are half the limits.

Of course I may be wrong but I doubt it....

 

[quinner01]

Sounds good to me. Never thought too much when I seen the same ppl at Burwell taking 30-50 perch 4 or 5 times a week, thinking there was a difference between catch and possession limits :0

 

[duckman]

I was under the impression that the question was for lake erie as this is a long point board so I would be right and was just trying to help as for running my mouth if answering someones question is running my mouth so be it. I think coming on the internet and saying that someone is not liked is running your mouth maybe keep your comments to yourself im sure that everyone on here has someone that does not like them that is the way of the world.

 

[BASS-master-Gordon]

i dont believe i have ever kept my limit, im the only one who eats it and 15 or 20 perch is way more than enough for me.

fishing,for some a hobby, for most an addiction

 

[naturenut]

quote:
Originally posted by ch312

quote:
Originally posted by Stick

I don't know how many of you were around here when Markus Kehoe was an Ontario resident, very gifted and comitted outdoorsman and a valued contributor here but I seem to remember a "busy body" having something out for him to the point where he got a visit from our local CO's. If I remember right he came out clean but still had to deal with the hassle.






if that's the markus i'm thinking of, odds are there was a lot more than one person that didn't like him. gotta be careful when running your mouth on the internet i guess...



Markus Kehoe moved to the East if i am not mistaken, and he wasn't someone that was "running his mouth off" on here.. he was always helpful to ppl on here and posted advice,and good detailed reports, he was a great guy to have on this board, and good outdoorsman, if anyone didn't like him it might have been more of a jealousy issue over him being a very successful knowledgeable angler/hunter and outdoorsman! really nobody has/had any reason to be jealous of him, you just had to ask a ? and he could help you be successful too!!