I do agree with you about the view the public gets from the orange army ,,,I could go out back on are farm and shoot a deer anyday of the week ,,but a lot of guys do not have this option ,so how many guys would be able to hunt if thy did not have a gang to join that had land to hunt ,,,How many city folks would be able to shoot a deer if thy were left up to there own ,,not saying thy do not know how to hunt but rather thy may not have spots were thy can hunt ,,I bow hunt the first part of the season and also hunt the late shotgun hunt ,and I do fill a few tags well in the controlled hunt every year as there are a few in every group that would never shoot a deer un less thy just happen to get very lucky ,,we do try to give every one a great spot and switch out were every one sits day to day ,,but some guys just canot hit them or freeze up when thy get a chance ,we all know how that works ,,,,like thy say 10 percent of the hunters shot 90 percent of the deer ,,If I could hunt deer anytime in the season with what ever tool I wanted to hunt with.. with in the law ie shotgun muzzle loader ,or bow ,,,in are area we would not need to have big groups of guys out in orange ,,,once I filled my tag I could take others out to help them fill tags ,with small group like two or three guys ,hunting small areas ,on weekends or threw the week with out having to be in a rush trying to get every one a deer with in the one week rush ,,,there has to be a better way ,,,,Dutch