Better to wait for lpb ice late jan early feb,I have seen ice stay till into april bout 8 yrs ago. Lake simcoe I recall (cooks bay) perch are fry size we joked that we shouldve filleted the shiners wouldve had more in the pan. I also watched 15 vehicles go through the ice at the end of gilford road,they parked on 7 inches of ice ,close together bout 6-7yr ago.