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Discussion in 'Fishing Reports' started by fisherman, Nov 25, 2010.

  1. fisherman

    fisherman Well-Known Member

    :Dsome one from woodstock and his partner went over the limit on big creek in delhi ? 90 dollar fine isnt much .but next time might be little harsher .ya can eat lots of joeys fish for that much:(it happens eh guys
     
  2. easy rider

    easy rider Member

    that guy got what he deserved, he's nothing but a meat hungry , hell , i cant even call him a angler....and he can count, he never releases a fish, i see that mother ____er there every year, he belongs st pittock lake , lol
     
  3. wojo

    wojo Well-Known Member

    $90 is a joke, maybe ban him for life and confiscate his fishing tackle and vehicle would send a better message, but then again look at the fines the commercial boys get. Someones pockets are getting lined.......
     
  4. Goose Egg

    Goose Egg Well-Known Member

    dont by any means condone the over taking of limits --- but given the light fines given to commercial guys --- this is inline you must agree
     
  5. Fishaholic

    Fishaholic Well-Known Member

    Anyone got a name,or seen an official news release? What did this guys vehicle look like?(just curious if I have seen it around)

    Thanks
    KJ

    " Never mind if the horses are blind, just load the damn wagon"
     
  6. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    What about his gold islander and fenwick rod that went in the CO truck? I do agree 90$ is not enough, but if he needs to clean out the river to "feed his family" like he always says, maybe $90 teaches him a lesson.

    Dont hesitate to call, most people that fish that creek know this guy, or have seen him. Keep calling, thats what we did yesterday, and a fine, and gear confiscation is a start!

    Easyrider summed it up best.

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  7. wojo

    wojo Well-Known Member

    Can't count to five? Yep sounds like someone from Woodstock! Burn!

    But really 90$ that's a joke
     
  8. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    And like fisherman said, its a start, the next time this @sshole gets fined, it will get more severe. He now has a record.

    I dont have the facts of the fine, but I find $90 hard to believe, I've never heard of an overlimit fine being under $100? As 1 fish over the limit itself is normally at least $100. Or so I thought anyway.

    Fishaholic, they were in a silver newer SUV yesterday, I think a Honda, but I've seen him drving a darker coloured SUV in the past.
    And no name, but its not English anyway, so if I knew, I probably couldnt spell it.

    This will give him a real bad rep, you should have seen the 7 or 8 other anglers there all shouting for joy. Quite the scene.

    I'd also like to mention I seen a young girl steelheading by herself yesterday (low 20's I'd say), how often have I seen that? I must say its a first. She packed up and left pretty quickly, after the same @sshole tromped right on her gear and tackle, spilling it everywhere. She was also discusted at how he was kicking the steelhead on the bank. He sure puts a bad image into peoples mind about fishing.

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  9. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by Wolffy45

    Can't count to five? Yep sounds like someone from Woodstock! Burn!

    But really 90$ that's a joke



    Wolffy, the limit is 2 for a sports licence, and 1 for a conservation licence. Just thought I'd clarify it or inform you, so you dont make the same mistake by accident. Not suggesting youre a meathunter either lol

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  10. SRT8

    SRT8 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by Wolffy45

    Can't count to five? Yep sounds like someone from Woodstock! Burn!

    But really 90$ that's a joke



    Wolfy the limit in FMZ 16 are 2 fish in the rivers it is only 5 in FMZ 19 or Lake Erie.It is only still 5 for brook and brown trout in FMZ16 .




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  11. SRT8

    SRT8 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by quinner01

    quote:
    Originally posted by Wolffy45

    Can't count to five? Yep sounds like someone from Woodstock! Burn!

    But really 90$ that's a joke



    Wolffy, the limit is 2 for a sports licence, and 1 for a conservation licence. Just thought I'd clarify it or inform you, so you dont make the same mistake by accident. Not suggesting youre a meathunter either lol

    [img height=1]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy248/quinner01/halloween09.jpg[/img]



    LOL beat me to it:D but you would be suprised how many anglers have no idea that it changed

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  12. Stick

    Stick Well-Known Member

    "but you would be suprised how many anglers have no idea that it changed"

    And you would be surprised to find out how many anglers think that you can still fish salmon in Tillsonburg after September 30. Or bows for that matter.

    The new regs are almost as bad as the old ones to try to comprehend but it is up to the angler to find out. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.

    PS Nice to finally get to chat with ya this morning Shawn. Sorry it wasn't long but a man has to make a living. Did get out at lunch though and "they" made the afternoon seem a little shorter. It's amazing how many drifts you can make in 45 minutes when you're watching your watch and counting each placement to cover the width of a run 6" at a swing. And how fast you can retie an entire drift rig including float when one runs you under a jamb and down through an entire set of rapids only to rap around the only friggin stump on that side of the water.

    Later

    Stick

    Prepare for every outing as if it were a military mission. Play every fish like you were dancing with the prettiest woman in the room!

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ KERSPLASH!


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  13. paulyboy83

    paulyboy83 New Member

    I wonder if this is the same guy I see sitting down at the river in Woodstock. There's a guy I see down there quite often in the spring and fall. I'll see him catch 5 or more pike on Saturday morning and then see him down there putting more pike in his bucket again Sunday morning. I guess he could be eating a few of them for dinner in between but it's no wonder the river in Woodstock only produces snot rockets anymore!

    ps I'm from Woodstock and I can count to 7?:p
     
  14. Stick

    Stick Well-Known Member

    I can count to 11 as long as it's not cold out. If it is I can only count to to 10.1.[}:)]

    No seriously, it is up to us as users to make the phone calls to start putting these dirtbags where they belong. I know that sometimes it falls on deaf ears but once you get to know the CO's personally and gain credibility with them they will come from the supper table to get the mother f*(&)#s that need to have their A$&%s reamed out. Even if it is 1 pultry little fine after another.

    Stick

    All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me!

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  15. wojo

    wojo Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by SRT8

    quote:
    Originally posted by quinner01

    Originally posted by Wolffy45

    Can't count to five? Yep sounds like someone from Woodstock! Burn!

    But really 90$ that's a joke



    Wolffy, the limit is 2 for a sports licence, and 1 for a conservation licence. Just thought I'd clarify it or inform you, so you dont make the same mistake by accident. Not suggesting youre a meathunter either lol

    [img height=1]http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy248/quinner01/halloween09.jpg[/img]



    LOL beat me to it:D but you would be suprised how many anglers have no idea that it changed

    I had no idea it had changed ,it doesn't matter to me I haven't kept 5 in my 30 yrs of fishing , I usually buy farmed and it was just a easy shot at Woodstock
     
  16. SRT8

    SRT8 Well-Known Member

    yeah it was in affect for a hole season before I was told about it

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  17. fisherman

    fisherman Well-Known Member

    8Dpepole like this are fast to engage in .[xx(]taking of more than needed and some pepole are fast to condem those that fish by the rules comercial or other wise an aylmer chap was recently banned for 2 years and fined for perch selling without a commercial licence SOME DAY ONE OF YOU P . C . NUTS LOOK UP THE TORONTO STAR STORY FROM THE LATE 60..S,OF HOW LAKE ERIE WAS SAVE FROM FISH DESTRUCTION IN THOSE YEARS by ur fav . pepole to knock / they hired a netherland sientice to solve eries problems not the mnr or fisheries and oceans but ta ta the comercial boys and they paid for it look it up youll change yourmind about wats wat out there im a angler but i have a great distaste for those who use a sounding board to knock something that they dont research first ty have a good day :D
     
  18. SRT8

    SRT8 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by fisherman

    8Dpepole like this are fast to engage in .[xx(]taking of more than needed and some pepole are fast to condem those that fish by the rules comercial or other wise an aylmer chap was recently banned for 2 years and fined for perch selling without a commercial licence SOME DAY ONE OF YOU P . C . NUTS LOOK UP THE TORONTO STAR STORY FROM THE LATE 60..S,OF HOW LAKE ERIE WAS SAVE FROM FISH DESTRUCTION IN THOSE YEARS by ur fav . pepole to knock / they hired a netherland sientice to solve eries problems not the mnr or fisheries and oceans but ta ta the comercial boys and they paid for it look it up youll change yourmind about wats wat out there im a angler but i have a great distaste for those who use a sounding board to knock something that they dont research first ty have a good day :D



    Most people don't have a big problem with the commercial guys that are making a HONEST living. Quota's are set for the lake to allow sustainable harvests, but if you look up MNR convictions there are a lot out there in the big boats that are total crooks and have no business out there. The MNR needs to take one of these crooks boats and lisence to set a presedence for the Industry .What a bunch of Honest commercial guys did in the 60's says nothing to the ethics of our present day commercials not that they are all bad.

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  19. packrat

    packrat Well-Known Member

    Now I'Mthe one that's confused !!!!!!


    Just looked up the regs for FMZ 16 page 79-----top of the page says: rainbow trout S-2, C-1 for possession limit. Fair enough.

    Then I look further down under additional opportunities and I see rainbow/brown trout open all year possession S-5, C-2 (for you know where)

    Just to make matters even more confusing to me the Lake O trib where I took my one falls under the same limit (S-2) DUH!!!!

    Good thing I'm (challenged) when it comes to "steelheading" where my seasonal best seems to be limited to one (if I'm lucky):D

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  20. preacher

    preacher Well-Known Member

    I think it reads a total of five-trout/salmon, only 2 of which can be rainbow. In short you can only catch 2 rainbows, the rest if you want to max your limit have to be made up of salmon or browns.
     
  21. Stick

    Stick Well-Known Member

    Gord to add to your confusion look at the note for the little star Aggregate Limits see page 7. Long story short only 2 of the 5 can be rainbows but the others can be browns.


    Stick

    All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me!

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  22. packrat

    packrat Well-Known Member

    Thanks guys---now I'm REALLY confused.

    The people that wrote these regs must be rolling on the floor LMAO--lets see them figure this one out!!!!!!

    So as long as I dont take more then two bows I'm good to go----that'll be the day:p

    [img=left]http://www.myfishingpictures.com/img/067096.gif[/img=left]
     
  23. rock34

    rock34 Member

    The regs can definitely be confusing. I keep a copy in my car so anytime I will be fishing water that I am not absolutely 100% about I re-read them until I am fully comfortable that I am within the law. I also keep the MNR 1-800 number in my phone, although I have called 3 times now over the years and have yet to see any follow up.
     
  24. SRT8

    SRT8 Well-Known Member

    If you have a blackberry you can have the regs in your pocket while fishing just save the website to your bookmarks as long as you have service you have the regs with you.

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  25. rock34

    rock34 Member

    Originally posted by SRT8

    If you have a blackberry you can have the regs in your pocket while fishing just save the website to your bookmarks as long as you have service you have the regs with you.

    Excellent point...I havent thought of that. I havent been taking the BB with me as often since I went for a swim while flyfishing the grand in the summer. That cost me a phone :(

    Lately though I have been ziplocking it so that I have it with me at least.

    Anyway, suggestion noted and thanks.
     
  26. wojo

    wojo Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by fisherman

    8Dpepole like this are fast to engage in .[xx(]taking of more than needed and some pepole are fast to condem those that fish by the rules comercial or other wise an aylmer chap was recently banned for 2 years and fined for perch selling without a commercial licence SOME DAY ONE OF YOU P . C . NUTS LOOK UP THE TORONTO STAR STORY FROM THE LATE 60..S,OF HOW LAKE ERIE WAS SAVE FROM FISH DESTRUCTION IN THOSE YEARS by ur fav . pepole to knock / they hired a netherland sientice to solve eries problems not the mnr or fisheries and oceans but ta ta the comercial boys and they paid for it look it up youll change yourmind about wats wat out there im a angler but i have a great distaste for those who use a sounding board to knock something that they dont research first ty have a good day :D



    what language was this written in. Thx
     
  27. ch312

    ch312 Well-Known Member

    im aware that there are those who intentionally go out to poach, but i wonder how many of these people are honestly clueless regarding regs? look at how many mistakes are made on fishing forums every year regarding fishing regulations. then you have all those people that dont visit fishing forums and have difficulty understanding them with no help from others.

    i've reported poachers in the past and will continue to do so. but, if you'd talk to these people instead of acting like enraged morons screaming at these people you'd see that some of them really dont have a clue. it's VERY easy to read most people and know when they're intentionally. thats when i casually say goodbye and call the hotline when im out of sight.
     
  28. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by ch312

    im aware that there are those who intentionally go out to poach, but i wonder how many of these people are honestly clueless regarding regs? look at how many mistakes are made on fishing forums every year regarding fishing regulations. then you have all those people that dont visit fishing forums and have difficulty understanding them with no help from others.

    i've reported poachers in the past and will continue to do so. but, if you'd talk to these people instead of acting like enraged morons screaming at these people you'd see that some of them really dont have a clue. it's VERY easy to read most people and know when they're intentionally. thats when i casually say goodbye and call the hotline when im out of sight.





    I totally agree with you, but there are still lots of poachers out there who "lie or pretend" they dont know. The guy in question knows damn well what he has been doing for years is wrong, and well if nothing or no one is going to do nothing about it, these people will continue. That stopped Wednesday, for this individual anyway. He tried to tell the CO it was his first time ever fishing there, yet of the many times Ive made my way there, he's always there... Half the time they just act dumb, like they dont know, but they know.

    Although there are some honest people out there who just dont know, like you say.

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  29. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by rock34

    The regs can definitely be confusing. I keep a copy in my car so anytime I will be fishing water that I am not absolutely 100% about I re-read them until I am fully comfortable that I am within the law. I also keep the MNR 1-800 number in my phone, although I have called 3 times now over the years and have yet to see any follow up.




    I hope you continue to call. I have always heard back from a CO, within a half hour, SRT8 will attest to this as well. They are always good for getting back to us. I hear otherwise on some of the huron tribs, but continue to take the extra couple minutes and make the call. Its up to us, as the ethical anglers.
    Make sure you have the number correct to, as there is no 1-800 mnr number. Its 1-877-tips-mnr.

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  30. rock34

    rock34 Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by quinner01

    quote:
    Originally posted by rock34

    The regs can definitely be confusing. I keep a copy in my car so anytime I will be fishing water that I am not absolutely 100% about I re-read them until I am fully comfortable that I am within the law. I also keep the MNR 1-800 number in my phone, although I have called 3 times now over the years and have yet to see any follow up.




    I hope you continue to call. I have always heard back from a CO, within a half hour, SRT8 will attest to this as well. They are always good for getting back to us. I hear otherwise on some of the huron tribs, but continue to take the extra couple minutes and make the call. Its up to us, as the ethical anglers.
    Make sure you have the number correct to, as there is no 1-800 mnr number. Its 1-877-tips-mnr.



    I wont stop calling ever
     
  31. ch312

    ch312 Well-Known Member

    quote:
    Originally posted by quinner01

    quote:
    Originally posted by ch312

    im aware that there are those who intentionally go out to poach, but i wonder how many of these people are honestly clueless regarding regs? look at how many mistakes are made on fishing forums every year regarding fishing regulations. then you have all those people that dont visit fishing forums and have difficulty understanding them with no help from others.

    i've reported poachers in the past and will continue to do so. but, if you'd talk to these people instead of acting like enraged morons screaming at these people you'd see that some of them really dont have a clue. it's VERY easy to read most people and know when they're intentionally. thats when i casually say goodbye and call the hotline when im out of sight.





    I totally agree with you, but there are still lots of poachers out there who "lie or pretend" they dont know. The guy in question knows damn well what he has been doing for years is wrong, and well if nothing or no one is going to do nothing about it, these people will continue. That stopped Wednesday, for this individual anyway. He tried to tell the CO it was his first time ever fishing there, yet of the many times Ive made my way there, he's always there... Half the time they just act dumb, like they dont know, but they know.

    Although there are some honest people out there who just dont know, like you say.




    like i said...its usually easy to tell if the poaching is intentional or not. i always talk to people before calling just to test the waters. i'm usually nicer to the intentional poachers...keeps them in the area longer ;)

    in this case it seems like its another case of us not having enough CO's around here to deal with these idiots the first time they poach. i'm 25 and grew up 2 blocks from the grand and have fished it a lot, but i still havent seen a single CO on the grand...EVER.
     
  32. Big Dave

    Big Dave Guest

    I have it on good authority that the fines were almost $500.

    BD
     
  33. Stick

    Stick Well-Known Member

    I hope you're right BD. I'll have to ask the CO next time I see him. At least the dirtbag hasn't been seen around that section of creek since.

    Stick

    All I ask from livin' is to have no chains on me!

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  34. jordy

    jordy Member

    I actually saw him fishing there today for a short time in the morning.
     
  35. quinner01

    quinner01 Well-Known Member

    Thats the first I heard of him back there. Doesnt suprise me though, we all know who this idiot is, keep a close eye on him.

    Jordy, check your mail too

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