I had lunch with him a few years back at hippos in low banks..he was going to trolling. Stopped for a bite to eat first. Nice guys talked fishing a bitThe Cronz - love that guy! He pulled my name out of a hat and I won one the first production models of the Evinrude 9.9 4 stroke! The motor turned out to be a bit of a ? , but it sure was an exciting ride home from the fishing show that night!