Leadcore, Bottom bounce, deep divers, or dipsey/jet?
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Coontail44
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Just my 2 cents. My time in fishing Erie has brought me to using these 2 methods. 1) Dipsy's w/cheater rig with a crank/spoon and a Tadpole attached to a spinner rig. 80% of the time I opt for the Dispsy method. If you're getting a good amount of drag when you're reeling walleye using Dipsy's your Dipsy release pin may not be releasing and causing you to fight the weight of the fish plus the diving Dipsy. They work great for me and don't experience a whole lot of drag with them. You can use the spinner rigs with any sort of weight to get them to the bottom such as a Bottom Bouncer. Every .5-1 second you should feel a "ting" in your rod from the Bouncer "walking" on bottom. Early year (Apr-early June) 1.6-1.8mph and summer time (Mid-june-August) .8-1.5mph. Try to stage your bait whether its spinner rigs/spoons/cranks. Put one so its walking on bottom then stage every 5-10ft of depth from there until you find them. Best Colours for me; Blue's, Pink's, and Copper baits.
I like inline keel weights, see attached. Attach them to end of line then add your harness, 5 feet leader on your harness. You can find depth charts online.
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fishing girl pink
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Come to Woodstock and go to anglers outfitters they are amazing and friendly will help you out.
SonsOfPerchin
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Last year was the first year I got into trolling. I got Tailfeathers charters for a evening and soaked in all his knowledge. Next day I got 2 line counter poles #0 dypsys and was easily getting a limit a hour. If your new to it I strongly suggest go with a charter. They aren't cheap but in long run you will save time and money
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Take all that stuff with a grain of salt....I rarely bother with those guys at angling sports. The staff isnt the most knowledgeable for the most part and their service leaves something to be desired. Steve @ Lambeth rod and tackle is my preferred local shop and he's quite knowledgeable when it comes to trolling. It's worth the drive to Lambeth for me There's plenty of fish in Erie for any method you choose, some may put more fish in the boat but all will work. Long leads and snap weights on braid will definitely make for better fight. Downriggers will work too, get some chamberlain releases and learn how to use them....vertical jigging or bottom bouncers can work but covering water is generally preferred and the most active fish are often suspended chasing bait. As mentioned, mark a spot when you hit a fish or two and run back through it a couple times. And stay shallow!! Although there may be fish out in 60-70' where we used to fish alot in the 80's-90's the lake has changed and there's more fish in 30-40' than some people realize.
Good luck!
Josh
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Kingkiller
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Try wackm tackle double downs. 2,3,4oz. You can cover a wide range of depths. Plus the weight has a hook on it. You can get them on their site
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Thanks. Hopefully Snaapz and I will put some fish in his boat tomorrow. If we don't he may not invite me again
There isn't even a hint of wind here at my place in London right now. Can't say it was like that an hour ago tho. The winds are supposed to be light out of the WNW to NW tomorrow so it should be a good day. Again tho, it's still early and as I said on another thread, a bad day of fishin is still better than well, pretty much anything else.
For the last couple years all I have been pulling is crankbaits behind inline boards. I am generally fishing the top 25' and can get crankbaits down there no problem without weights, tadpoles, dipsy s or downriggers(I have all of them).. if they are 30 and deeper i start adding inline weights. Only time I use spoons is if I'm targeting rainbows, and haven't had a worm in my boat in years. If all your after is walleye get some deep husky jerk 12s, rapala taildancers 11s and some reef runner 800s,, then get the precision trolling guides for those baits.
For Erie walleye simply use the pop can lure... once it fills with water it dives as deep as required so is a lure and diver in one, cheap too. These walleye herds will hammer it, even they love Coke! ???
Thanks for your input Chipper1. Any suggestions on colours?
snaapz
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I’m leaning towards this! I have some Bandits, Rapalas, Perfect 10s, Reef Runners... they did well for me last year and put walleye in the boat. I’m thinking for the next few trips out I’ll run a diver off one side and dipsy with worm harness off the other side....
colours.. if I'm fishing by myself the first 2 that always go out are a clown, and a fire tiger. Then blue/silver and a custom that catches my eye.
Today's hot one for me was a clown deep husky jerk,, some kid at the ramp in glascow got that lure from me today.. told him next time he goes out try this lure, and then I tossed it in his boat as I was pulling past them to Load.
Reef runners I like anything with chrome on it,, major thing is these lures must be tuned right from the get go.
Taildancers. I have a few I bought ebay United Kingdom,, they have colours we can't get here.
I think the most important thing is gettting to the right depth,, feeding walleye almost always feed up in Erie, so I always want to run my lure 1-3' above them. To do this I use the precision trolling guide book, and calibrate my line counters every year,, sometimes I respool 2-3 times a year if I'm getting snagged up and I lose too much line, and the reels aren't calibrated close anymore. It sounds kind of anal,, but since I started doing this my hookup rate has gone up considerably.
Today's hot one for me was a clown deep husky jerk,, some kid at the ramp in glascow got that lure from me today.. told him next time he goes out try this lure, and then I tossed it in his boat as I was pulling past them to Load.
Reef runners I like anything with chrome on it,, major thing is these lures must be tuned right from the get go.
Taildancers. I have a few I bought ebay United Kingdom,, they have colours we can't get here.
I think the most important thing is gettting to the right depth,, feeding walleye almost always feed up in Erie, so I always want to run my lure 1-3' above them. To do this I use the precision trolling guide book, and calibrate my line counters every year,, sometimes I respool 2-3 times a year if I'm getting snagged up and I lose too much line, and the reels aren't calibrated close anymore. It sounds kind of anal,, but since I started doing this my hookup rate has gone up considerably.
Lunkerhunter
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Thanks Chipper1 good info.
sterlingz
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You can use spoons on bottom bouncers but I'd 100% avoid doing this. Reason being, if you slow down or stop for whatever reason, the spoon can tangle up on bottom. Not so much an issue on Erie due to the sandy bottom, but everywhere else, you're asking for a snag. I use a floating harness.
Edit: a lure on bottom will pick up junk and clams, too.
Dipsies are fine but 90% of the time they're not at the depth you think they are. You say they're fighting you when you reel in a fish, this shouldn't be the case. I bet you're letting out the dipsy fast, right?
Edit: a lure on bottom will pick up junk and clams, too.
Dipsies are fine but 90% of the time they're not at the depth you think they are. You say they're fighting you when you reel in a fish, this shouldn't be the case. I bet you're letting out the dipsy fast, right?
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