Go get em boys and girls

Great news on the couch,what great service you get on this site.:)I assume there are sticks to put our rods in and trees near by for our lanterns.
Thanks Stick,see ya soon Kenny :D


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you almost make it sound like you frown upon those who choose to keep a fish for a few meals...




No just people that keep their limit every time they go trout fishing in a totally wild fishery that he frowns apon Quinn eats a couple now and then to just like we all do but we let go 99% lets not start the catch and keep/catch and release BS on stomps board it's been beat to death on every other forum on the net winternet shouldn't be starting when it's +12 out LOL:D

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Originally posted by ch312

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Originally posted by quinner01




In the end, its all about catch and release, and proper release. The thrill for me is hooking and fighting the steel, a pic and then to watch it take off again. I release all my fish and if everyone was like me, the fisheries would never be abused, due to humans anyway. Too many people who drive their "SUV's or tucks" but need to catch their next meal....










you almost make it sound like you frown upon those who choose to keep a fish for a few meals...




No, not at all buddy, I keep the odd one that gets hooked deep and likely wont survive, or the odd one when I havent kept one in a while. I was more so referring to the people I see who carry their limit out of the creek everytime I see them... But as Srt8 said, we practice 99% C&R. I just started trout fishing 2 years ago, and have gone through the early struggles and highs/lows of trout fishing. It made me realize how valuable this fishery is, and also how fragile it could be. Now I am hooking into multiple fish more times than not.
Good luck out there!


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You probably don't keep them cause you don't know how to clean them or your mom won't let you. When you get a little older you'll learn, probably get a smoker, and then you'll be "one of those guys" taking a few home. Nothing wrong with taking fish, that's what your paying for.

Bologna
 
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Originally posted by Stick

"Altohugh erie creeks are full of wood, if you know what youre doing, you should not be leaving terminal tackle in fish. Of all the fish I've caught in the last couple years, I've maybe broken off 3 fish max. Of course it may not be the same for people with less experience,"

??????WTF?



I was thinking the same thing!? Guess I don't know what I'm doing! My 20+ years of succesful steelheading throughout the entire great lakes region just adds up to a big lack of experience......Lost three in the wood last time out! Lol!

Josh
 
Just got back from a look see at what this recent rain done to the one closer system to me. She is blown big time but that is a good thing in my books. Should be very good in a few days and I have to work, grrrrr. Good luck to everyone who is fishing later this week. I have to wait until Sunday, daughter is getting married on Saturday so Sunday and Monday until I get out to tackle the fish:)
 
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Originally posted by Josh Roelofsen

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Originally posted by Stick

"Altohugh erie creeks are full of wood, if you know what youre doing, you should not be leaving terminal tackle in fish. Of all the fish I've caught in the last couple years, I've maybe broken off 3 fish max. Of course it may not be the same for people with less experience,"

??????WTF?



I was thinking the same thing!? Guess I don't know what I'm doing! My 20+ years of succesful steelheading throughout the entire great lakes region just adds up to a big lack of experience......Lost three in the wood last time out! Lol!

Josh



Dont take it the wrong way Josh, maybe I worded that wrong, sorry. Ive had a good fall so far, but maybe I'm just getting lucky not breaking off, its been rare for me, but maybe I am jynxing myself now lol... I also have put in a lot of time and work to figure the trib in question out...to my adantage I would say.

I have also yet to catch a fish with a hook already in its yap, but I would agree that erie tribs should be more common for that to happen than anywhere else.

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Originally posted by sammy

You probably don't keep them cause you don't know how to clean them or your mom won't let you. When you get a little older you'll learn, probably get a smoker, and then you'll be "one of those guys" taking a few home. Nothing wrong with taking fish, that's what your paying for.

Bologna



Comments like this are uncalled for. This is supposed to be a discussion, not where select members decide to insult others.
Not keeping any because you dont know how to clean a fish is the worst logic Ive ever heard. Why would I not know how to clean a fish?And what does my mom have to do with any of this? I'm not 12 years old...

Please re-read the thread before posting useless comments like you did, as I stated above that there is no problem with keeping a few fish, I kept 4 last fall If I recall, and one small one this fall.

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Originally posted by quinner01



No, not at all buddy, I keep the odd one that gets hooked deep and likely wont survive, or the odd one when I havent kept one in a while. I was more so referring to the people I see who carry their limit out of the creek everytime I see them... But as Srt8 said, we practice 99% C&R. I just started trout fishing 2 years ago, and have gone through the early struggles and highs/lows of trout fishing. It made me realize how valuable this fishery is, and also how fragile it could be. Now I am hooking into multiple fish more times than not.
Good luck out there!

Hey Sammy, there you go, figured I'd highlite it for you, incase your reading skills aren't up to par.
But apparently its wrong to release most of my fish...

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According to one of the fishing shows on TV, in Sweden there is no catch and release !. The animal rights group have got the government to pass this law. If you catch it, you must keep it.

Let us not inflame ourselves or the general public.

Enjoy fishing and hunting while we can.
 
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Originally posted by Josh Roelofsen

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Originally posted by Stick

"Altohugh erie creeks are full of wood, if you know what youre doing, you should not be leaving terminal tackle in fish. Of all the fish I've caught in the last couple years, I've maybe broken off 3 fish max. Of course it may not be the same for people with less experience,"

??????WTF?



I was thinking the same thing!? Guess I don't know what I'm doing! My 20+ years of succesful steelheading throughout the entire great lakes region just adds up to a big lack of experience......Lost three in the wood last time out! Lol!

Josh



hey Josh any updates on Huron tribs. Even though I live in St.Thomas I have spent the last 20 years fishing huron tribs mostly the niner,maitland and bayfield. I would like to get out for the first time this fall but with 3 kids playing hockey and work it has been nearly impossible but I could probably fit a day or 3 in the next 2-3 weeks(my favourite time of steelheading)but driving up to less than favouritable conditions would be wastefulness. I was hoping the rain yesterday and maybe some more today should start the fish moving,thanks.
 
With only 2 years experience and only keeping a few fish each year it wouldn't surprised me if you can't clean a trout. To do it well takes alot of practise. .Man handling and letting the fish flop on the bank for your prized picture probably is worse on the fishery than keeping them. I think your limit should be the amount you catch regardless if you choose to keep them or not.Wouldn't surprise me if half the fish you think you released unharmed don't make it
 
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Originally posted by sammy

With only 2 years experience and only keeping a few fish each year it wouldn't surprised me if you can't clean a trout. To do it well takes alot of practise. .Man handling and letting the fish flop on the bank for your prized picture probably is worse on the fishery than keeping them. I think your limit should be the amount you catch regardless if you choose to keep them or not.Wouldn't surprise me if half the fish you think you released unharmed don't make it



Does it really matter if I can clean a trout? I keep a couple each season, but prefer catch and release fishing. I dont care if you keep a few, or anyone keeps a few, so whats the big deal? You seem offended that I catch steelhead and release steelhead?

If the limit was the amount people caught then Stick would be keeping over 100 a year, I'd be keeping at least half that, Srt8 would be keeping more than enough, and Josh would be keeping hundreds. Thats just 4 fisherman right there of the hundreds. A statement like that makes no sense. If you properly release a steelhead it will survive just fine. And I wont release a fish I think wont survive. I bring a fair size net along with me,so the fish never needs to be removed from the water, and everytime they take off with lots of power. So I dont know where youre getting the idea of the fish flopping around on the ground? If catch and release was such a terrible or ineffective method, and many fish were dieing, there wouldnt be much of a run coming up the creeks anymore. I'd like to hear what Josh or Stick has to say about catch and release as they are more educated on it then me.

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Bowslayer, I have heard the last bit of rain has improved the huron tribs and got some fish moving. Although it would still be wise to hear what Josh has to say 8D

And I thank Tim for actually sticking to the thread as well. Thanks for the condition updates. Have fun at the wedding.

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Hey Chip,I think we need Al down here with his bus too. and as you know you can borrow my trout stuff anytime (after all you gave me a wack of stuff when you had enough of all the "legends" up north)! Just let me know and I'll even tie you some roe, and draw up a detailed map. Don't you have short work weeks right now?

KJ

" Never mind if the horses are blind, just load the damn wagon"
 
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hey Josh any updates on Huron tribs. Even though I live in St.Thomas I have spent the last 20 years fishing huron tribs mostly the niner,maitland and bayfield. I would like to get out for the first time this fall but with 3 kids playing hockey and work it has been nearly impossible but I could probably fit a day or 3 in the next 2-3 weeks(my favourite time of steelheading)but driving up to less than favouritable conditions would be wastefulness. I was hoping the rain yesterday and maybe some more today should start the fish moving,thanks.



Won't go into details here, but all the tribs now have decent fishable #'s throughout.........each bump in water levels will result in more and bigger fish showing up and fishing being best shortly after the levels start to drop........all the info you really need is right here.........

http://www.wateroffice.ec.gc.ca/text_search/search_e.html

If you have any specific questions you can fire me off an E-mail:

joshroelofsen@hotmail.com
 
Sammy obviously has no clue what he's talking about or is just trying to stir the pot......

Catch and release is very effective, somewhere around 99% when done PROPERLY. Once in a while fish do get deep hooked and mortality is inevitable. I don't feel bad keeping a deep hooked fish, it's happened to me exactly 3 times out of about 300 fish I've landed so far this fall. Those are so far the only 3 fish that I've kept and I would be very surprised if any one of the 297 or so others died shortly after there release. IMO fish fought quickly and handled properly should not need to be "revived". Every fish I release will immediately bolt out of my hand when pointed back into the flow and my hand removed. A fish being released shouldn't have any trouble keeping itself upright or swim away in slow motion.....

I try to land most fish up to about 6lb in the water and keeping them in the water. I use only my bare hand and grip tightly around the tail with my thumb and middle finger. Smallish fish are easiest grabbed gently around the middle. When landing small to medium sized fish on my own in the river I will often turn them upside down in one hand removing the hook with the other. Flipping them upside down will immobilize them quite effectively. Bigger fish I try to pull into water just shallow enough to turn them on their side, the hook is pulled and the fish pointed back into the current and released. The fish is only ever held by the tail and supported under the belly. NEVER should you EVER hold a trout up by the gills! And always try and hold the fish OVER THE WATER.

Generally I only bother getting pictures if I'm fishing with someone. We make sure the camera is already out and the fish lifted from the water for no more than about 10 seconds for the picture. Studies have shown that mortality due to being removed from the water generally starts to occur after about 30 seconds.

Proper tackle can also play a factor in safe release. Overplaying fish is not a good idea. If you can't land a fish inside of a few minutes your tackle is too light! rarely will I have a fight last more than about a minute and a half.

Another thing I find important is to match the size of hooks to the size of fish that are prevalent. Although I prefer to use as big a hook as I can get away with the #6 and bigger will stay in the bag if there are alot of shakers around, Bigger hooks can do alot of damage to those little guys. Pinching the barbs down whenever lures are being use is also important to me as trebles can be tough to remove without doing so.

Josh
 
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Originally posted by Josh Roelofsen

Sammy obviously has no clue what he's talking about or is just trying to stir the pot......

Catch and release is very effective, somewhere around 99% when done PROPERLY. Once in a while fish do get deep hooked and mortality is inevitable. I don't feel bad keeping a deep hooked fish, it's happened to me exactly 3 times out of about 300 fish I've landed so far this fall. Those are so far the only 3 fish that I've kept and I would be very surprised if any one of the 297 or so others died shortly after there release. IMO fish fought quickly and handled properly should not need to be "revived". Every fish I release will immediately bolt out of my hand when pointed back into the flow and my hand removed. A fish being released shouldn't have any trouble keeping itself upright or swim away in slow motion.....

I try to land most fish up to about 6lb in the water and keeping them in the water. I use only my bare hand and grip tightly around the tail with my thumb and middle finger. Smallish fish are easiest grabbed gently around the middle. When landing small to medium sized fish on my own in the river I will often turn them upside down in one hand removing the hook with the other. Flipping them upside down will immobilize them quite effectively. Bigger fish I try to pull into water just shallow enough to turn them on their side, the hook is pulled and the fish pointed back into the current and released. The fish is only ever held by the tail and supported under the belly. NEVER should you EVER hold a trout up by the gills! And always try and hold the fish OVER THE WATER.

Generally I only bother getting pictures if I'm fishing with someone. We make sure the camera is already out and the fish lifted from the water for no more than about 10 seconds for the picture. Studies have shown that mortality due to being removed from the water generally starts to occur after about 30 seconds.

Proper tackle can also play a factor in safe release. Overplaying fish is not a good idea. If you can't land a fish inside of a few minutes your tackle is too light! rarely will I have a fight last more than about a minute and a half.

Another thing I find important is to match the size of hooks to the size of fish that are prevalent. Although I prefer to use as big a hook as I can get away with the #6 and bigger will stay in the bag if there are alot of shakers around, Bigger hooks can do alot of damage to those little guys. Pinching the barbs down whenever lures are being use is also important to me as trebles can be tough to remove without doing so.

Josh



Sammy can't catch real fish so he trolls on the internet LOL:D

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